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Re: Did Thistleclaw deserve to go to the Dark Forest?

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Originally Posted by Aleka (Post 407844)

/O/

Finally someone else actually sees Thistle as a good cat, because unlike about every cat that went to the dark forest, he never actually killed anyone. Not to mention that he was kind of killed for no reason, tbh.
Like seriously, he was really only a little bit aggressive during patrols apparently, and so was Mudclaw, and not to mention how Mudclaw did try to take over leadership in WindClan, and he still went too StarClan. Basically, the same thing with Ashfur. After all, he did try to murder his mate and foster kits in a fire, ans he somehow gets a pass for that? Like seriously.

he killed an unnamed tabby while training in the dark forest.

mudclaw went to starclan because he honestly thought he was following the warrior code. it was the word of two thunderclan cats and their windclan buddy without any other witnesses.

it was tallstar's wrongdoing for how he handled changing deputies. mudclaw wasn't actually doing anything wrong.

Re: Did Thistleclaw deserve to go to the Dark Forest?

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Originally Posted by Mad King (Post 407908)

Yeah, I think Mudclaw did deserve to go to StarClan, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcrO3AYK-SE This goes into that brilliantly.(At least I think so :D)

Re: Did Thistleclaw deserve to go to the Dark Forest?

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Originally Posted by Duststorm (Post 407667)

I've said it like 5 times xD; I agree w/ King that the reason Thistle is in the DF is because he killed a cat in the DF and not just by purely training there, and beyond that, he never redeemed himself. I'll eventually make a rant I just don't want to type it out OTL

Well, my opinion about the thing that the reason he's in the DF because he killed a cat in the DF is that the cat he killed shouldn't have been training there in the first place. That cat's fault xD Sorry for referring to them as "them", I forgot which cat.

Re: Did Thistleclaw deserve to go to the Dark Forest?

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Originally Posted by Hopekit (Post 408354)

That line of reasoning is a bit interesting. Although I see what you mean.

Re: Did Thistleclaw deserve to go to the Dark Forest?

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Originally Posted by Hopekit (Post 408354)

ideally, neither of them should have been there.

at the end of the day, it boils down to intentions. thistleclaw didn't kill her because of self defense, or to protect others (with a note these are the only real acceptable reasons behind killing someone); he killed her because he could.

had thistleclaw been in a situation where he was coerced into killing the she-cat - whether his own life or whitepaw's is on the line - it would've been a different story and it's likely he would've been accepted into starclan (if vicky didn't make it her goal to put him in there). but thistleclaw had the choice of not killing her at the minimal cost of facing off against mapleshade and losing his training there, and he didn't take it.

he was too sucked into the ideology of being the best warrior by killing his opponents and shedding blood. minus the influence of the dark forest, he probably would've been an excellent warrior and leader, but ultimately he allowed himself to be manipulated and twisted to the point of no return.