Do we think Ashfur would be a better mate/father than Bramblestar?
In my opinion, Yes, he appreciates Squirrelflight much much much much MUCH more than Bramblestar. I feel like at most if Squirrelflight loved him back, he’d be overprotective. Not losing it and going all crazy-killer-insane over her, because he knows she loves him
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Honestly tbh at this point BOTH ARE BAD OPTIONS OML Buuuuuuut pre reveal to the three bramble wasnt half bad to our lady squirrelly and the kiddos but post that? dog water.
My main issue with bramble is he swings widly on his action depending on the main writer for the book because he was bad during the squirrel ash flirtation period and post three parentage reveal. And will probably continue that trend if the latest books are an indication. HOWEVER. Any ideas people might have that ash wouldve been a better mate is pure fiction imo. Rereading the books about when squirrel was actually receptive to him he did a lot of..... Not cool stuff. Quietly sure more quiet then brambles 'issues' at that time but still not cool. I cant go into details this late at night because tired but as an adult with experience in relationships now its glaring. As for the direct question..... Ash might be a better mate, kinda if only in direct comparison with bad husband bramble but I agree with apollo that bramble was by far a better dad. To everyone but alder. Poor alder. I cant agree that ash for sure wouldnt have found some banal reason to snap and gone crazy. Hes always been unstable looking back at his character so this kinda feels fitting for him. |
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ALSO ASHFUR IS CONSIDERABLY OLDER THAN SQUIRRELFLIGHT, Ashfur was already an APRRENTICE, nearing WARRIOR by the time Bramblestar was BORN, who was already like 5-9 moons older than Squirrelflight! |
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I really think that Brambleclaw would've been a better cat/mate to Squirrelflight if he'd stayed like the character he was in the first 3ish books of The New Prophecy, and I have a theory that his brother Hawkfrost somehow played a role in changing his personality. In fact, right at the start of book 4, in the timescale of only a few chapters, Brambleclaw has a dramatic personality change, starting the moment Hawkfrost first speaks to him in a friendly way. In the book, it says: To his surprise, there was a friendly gleam in the RiverClan warrior’s blue eyes. “Thanks for finding the new territories, Brambleclaw,” he meowed. “I’m almost sorry that we’ll be going our separate ways now. I’d have liked to hunt with you." Then Squirrelflight gets cross at him and growls him for talking to Hawkfrost, making Brambleclaw lash out unfairly. “Or are you accusing him because of who his father was?” (Brambleclaw says.) Squirrelflight’s green eyes stretched wide. “If that’s what you think, then you don’t know me at all!” she hissed. After that fight, Squirrelflight and Ashfur immediatly begin to grow closer. Ashfur, though, is like a spoiled child, but worse; he doesn't treat Squirrelflight like another cat, but more like a pretty object or toy that Brambleclaw has and he desperatly wants for himself, and he drives himself to madness trying to get it, which is the most unhealthy structure for a relationship possible. Brambleclaw, though, knows and most of the time respects Squirrelflight for being another cat with her own opinions, but also most of the time he ignores them. So, if you ask me, neither would be a good mate at all - Squirrelflight really had terrible luck with toms. Also, Brambleclaw would be a better father in my opinion, though I wouldn't reccomend it (too late).
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No one ashfur likes would ever die, and if Squirrelflights right, Bramblestar would get over it and nothing would go completely wrong. Plus, Bramblestar could have made a more thought-through choice of deputy.
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None would be a better mate they both treat Squirrelflight like trash some way or other. Bramblestar is probably a better dad, however. But that's still not enough for him to qualify as a good mate. I'm sorry, Squirrelflight.
Especially since after he was unpossessed, Bramblestar's even worse. Might as well have just stayed a possessed guy |
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The amount of Bramblestar hate has reached almost bizarre levels in this thread- yes, he's a terrible guy, but cmon. At least he didn't try to kill Squirrelflight and the three.
Let's look at it this way. Even if Ashfur was Squirrelflight's mate, when he eventually finds out that the three are not in fact his kits and that Squirrelflight was lying to him, he'd flip out. Even Bramblestar was extremely angry(I say even because normally he's a pretty level-headed cat), so imagine what Ashfur would've done. |
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