RiverClan Leader's Den - Page 202

***occultation*** · #**2011** April 21st, 2024, 10:52 PM

Unfortunately, it seemed that this apprentice couldn't be easily deterred from helping out. Fadingsun took a deep breath, debating whether he just should flat-out say no. On one paw, he really wanted some peace and quiet right now, but on the other, Stickpaw was very enthusiastic about helping him, and he'd hate to hurt her feelings...

Resigning himself to his apparent fate, he let out the breath he'd been holding. "Fine. You can help me decorate my den. And we don't have to add any skulls; I agree that it's in poor taste." As much as RiverClan needed a stricter and harsher leader, they didn't need another Dawnstar.

Rising to his paws, he beckoned Stickpaw to follow. "Come along, let's go out into the territory and see what we can find."

[ You can make your next post in the territory! ]

Well, at least it was a simple question. Asking to become an apprentice at ten moons wasn't a big deal, at least for him. The leader gave her a curt, but positive, nod. "That's not a problem with me. As long as you've met all of the requirements, you can become a warrior at ten moons. I appreciate your drive to become a warrior as soon as you can; RiverClan needs cats who are committed to doing the hard work."

Wrenpaw had a temper; that he remembered from the meeting where he'd been named deputy. But, if she focused and chose the right path, she could become a great warrior.

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Originally Posted by Fish

Adderpaw
Determined ⋆ Loyal ⋆ Lawful Good ⋆ She/Her ⋆ Beefed Up T3

“One day I’ll be the greatest warrior of all the clans!”
@occultation

Adderpaw took a deep breath. She had gone into leader's dens many of times but this was a new leader, Fadingsun. She wondered how long they were going to stick around or if she was going to have to ask this question to the next resident of this den in a moons time. C'mon Adderpaw don't think like that, you are letting all the other doubters get to your mind now. Fadingsun would stick around this time. He would be the one and she would be backing him all the way. That's how things were meant to be.

Though she was going to test the waters a little and just walk straight on in boldly and confidently. Now bowing or asking to come in like a scared kit. Just straight forwards and to the point. "Fadingsun, I want to talk to you." Adderpaw started.

"I want to become a warrior as soon as possible. I'd prefer to be a warrior within this moon, would that be possible? I could complete the extra training in no time flat but I can't stand being an apprentice anymore." She tried to not let the emotions get the better of her but they were showing near the end. She took a deep breath. The nine moon apprentice could hope.

"I think I did prove myself well when defending the camp from Thunderclan, in two fights one of the cats never made it out.. The other? Well, tch, he left worse for wear!" She snickered misremembering the events with that one cat. It was more a draw but don't tell Adderpaw that. "Does that still count for the assessment by the way? Or with the new courses do I have to do another one?" She felt like she was asking if they had homework to the teacher here while hoping the teacher would not ask for last nights homework.. Yet it would be immoral to pretend there might have no actually been more work.

"On another note, I have done this before with leaders past but would you like a cool and capable bodyguard such as myself? While there hasn't been talk of rebellion yet I do not doubt some of the clanmates will go there. Having someone to watch your back might not be a bad idea." Adderpaw suggested. In her mind she was not a young cat so this was only reasonable. "And speaking of traitorous cats. If I hear some talk on that how should I handle the situation. Throw paws or just go and talk to you? I figure the later but I don't know how you want to handle things."

Seesh Adderpaw was pretty good at talking cats ears off. Hopefully Fadingsun had some good glue, he was going to need it.

Fadingsun wasn't surprised to see Adderpaw show up in his den. Out of all of the cats in the Clan, she was one of the most active and involved. If she didn't show up in his den sooner rather than later, he'd be concerned.

She had a lot to cover, it seemed, and she wasted no time in covering it. He listened quietly as she went through her questions, his expression thoughtful. Adderpaw was more mature than many of her fellow 'paws, but was she really ready to become a warrior? She was only nine moons old; he wasn't sure when exactly she turned ten, but he had a feeling it wasn't as soon as she wanted to be a warrior.

"I think it's admirable that you're so passionate about being a warrior," he began, aiming to begin with the positive. "You've been a present and active member of this Clan, and when it's the right time, you'll be a fantastic warrior. That being said, I want to wait until you're ten moons to make you a warrior. For all that I'm sure you're hoping to accomplish as a full warrior of this Clan, a little extra life experience won't hurt you. That being said, if all of your requirements have been met, you can become a warrior as soon as you turn ten moons. Given how well you performed in the invasion, you may skip the battle portion of your assessment. I still want you to do the rest, however."

On the topic of having a bodyguard, Fadingsun smiled. "The gesture is appreciated, genuinely. I hope that we'll never have a rebellion here, but with the way some of our Clanmates are, it's hard to ever say for certain." Adderpaw might still be an apprentice, but he had no reason to believe she couldn't handle the truth. "I have my Lionhearts to protect me. Dusklion, Owltalon, and Seabreeze will all help watch my back, just as I watch theirs. If you ever hear of any traitorous talk, I want you to come to me immediately. Don't try to fix the problem yourself." Traitors could be desperate, and desperation bred viciousness.

The hurt and sorrow that flashed across his sister's face made his throat tighten. Stars, why did their relationship have to be so difficult? Why did it have to fall to such a low? He kept his face neutral, but inside another little chip broke off of his heart.

The grief clutching him was quickly replaced by a burning fury as he listened to the rest of Dusklion's report. Her voice began to grow quieter, drowned out by a sudden roar in his ears. Three RiverClan cats? In WindClan's camp? What the actual hell?

This was absolutely, unequivocally not what RiverClan needed right now. Why did his Clanmates have to be so reckless?

Fury lighting a fire in his step, he gave Dusklion a quick nod. "Thank you for coming to me with this. I'll handle it." With that, he streaked out of his den and up to the Floodstone.

Oh, great. Here was Redmire again, talking as if she had any degree of authority in this Clan. Fadingsun had to put in extra effort to avoid rolling his eyes as she burst in his den, claiming that she was doing him favors and that he ought to do himself one by listening to her.

He'd said cats could come to him with their concerns, so he was going to allow her to say hers. That being said, if she didn't watch herself, there'd be trouble. "Say what's on your mind. I'll make it clear right now, however, that I won't tolerate being insulted. So mind that while you propose whatever it is you want to talk about."

Fadingsun had quickly come to appreciate when cats came into his den with good things rather than complaints or issues he needed to address. Skyfall's words were met with a smile, which was unfortunately rare to see on the leader's face these days. "I appreciate that, thank you."

His eyes shifted to Appleberry as she enthusiastically requested an apprentice. RiverClan needed cats who actually cared about getting their 'paw's training done, so he saw no problem with it. "I'll keep you in mind for the next time I need a mentor. Thank you; I'm sure you'll do a great job."

Eyes flicking from one warrior to another, he asked, "Is there anything else I can do for you?"

Fadingsun was out of camp for a while after the meeting, spending time alone so that he could get as much of his anger out as he could. A lot of grass in a certain strip of territory had been completely uprooted over the past couple of hours.

Eventually, he made his way back to camp as the sun set behind the horizon. Padding into his den, he flopped down in his nest. A lot of his anger had subsided, and now that pesky worry was beginning to creep its way in.

Seabreeze's arrival interrupted the progression of that nasty emotion, however. Fadingsun sat straight up, masking his gratitude at the Lionheart's arrival. "Yes, of course. What's on your mind?"

**Dolomedes** · #**2012** April 21st, 2024, 11:48 PM

Seabreeze
He/him | Riverclan Lionheart | Moons: 17 | Purrks: Go with the Flow | The Collector | Ultimate Predator |
“Ocean waters rising above your neck
You feel the glass start to crack.”

Seabreeze grabbed the fish and came into the den at his leader's words. The warrior gave an awkward grin around the prey and dropped it so that he could speak, "I grabbed some prey, in case you haven't eaten. and also its kind of nice to chat over food I think." The lionheart started easily. Conversation with Fadingsun and his fellow Lionhearts was getting a bit easier at least. He sighed and started his conversation on the point at paw, perfering not to stall around it. "So about your warrior restriction. I had some thoughts about how this would effect apprentice training, I figured that I could start doing group tours and take apprentices to the borders. It's a simple idea, but I wanted to run it by you just in case, you know?" Seabreeze knew that it was likely that Fadingsun wouldn't mind at all, but he didn't want to run into trouble down the line that could've been prevented from a simple going through things before paw. And also, communication in general is nice. He shrugged and decided to put more detail into the plan though it wasn't really needed. "Depends on how many apprentices need to have the borders covered for their territory tours but I think I could take out groups of like five or so?"

[ @occultation - Fadingsun ]

**dino.** · #**2013** April 22nd, 2024, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by occultation

Oh, great. Here was Redmire again, talking as if she had any degree of authority in this Clan. Fadingsun had to put in extra effort to avoid rolling his eyes as she burst in his den, claiming that she was doing him favors and that he ought to do himself one by listening to her.

He'd said cats could come to him with their concerns, so he was going to allow her to say hers. That being said, if she didn't watch herself, there'd be trouble. "Say what's on your mind. I'll make it clear right now, however, that I won't tolerate being insulted. So mind that while you propose whatever it is you want to talk about."

Redmire scowled at him. "As charming as ever. Don't flatter yourself, you're not worth that sort of time. It's about the whole kicking cats out of meetings thing to start with - and before you call me out on false pretenses, no, I'm not throwing a kit-fit because I was the first you booted. I want to talk about Birdsnow, too, but I'll save it for second."

She launched right into it. And it was long and wordy, but it was either he sit through what was essentially a miniature speech or she threw pointless profanities at him, and she was pretty sure she knew which he prefered.

“Throwing cats out of meetings and then banning them from the next one doesn’t help anyone. I’d get it if I interrupted a ceremony or cussed someone out or threatened to kill your face in front of the whole Clan, but that wasn’t what happened." If anything, she was the one who had been threatened by whoever that idiot was. She didn't care enough to remember their name for her list in the moment, she'd wrack her brains later. "If you shut cats down immediately all the time, they’re not going to want to speak out ever. And there goes passion and care and anything else you might be looking for, and then everybody’s just back to square one because no one’s going to want to put effort into a Clan that doesn’t hear them out. That's not what we need right now. You might not like me, but at least I care - that won't last long if no one feels comfortable openly voicing their opinions."

She rolled her shoulders, tasting her next words as they came to her.

“And banning cats from meetings is like asking for things to go wrong. What if something important goes out, an alliance or a murder or a major change, and the cats you banned from showing up aren’t there to hear, and they go and make a mess of things before someone else can tell them? Or there’s news of, like, a group of foxes in the area, they don’t know, and then they head out to that area and get themselves hurt and killed? It’s stupid and it’s setting us up for failure. If someone says something you don’t like and you kick them out for it every time, you’re not going to have cats to give news to. Same thing will happen if you make all your Lionhearts stay with the cats you throw out for the whole meeting. Owltalon missed everything else that was said, so she’s screwed if she can’t get the run-down from someone else later for whatever reason." Unlikely that a Lionheart would ever be left in the dark, but still a possibility. "It’s inefficient and it’ll slow us all down at the end of the day. I don't want us to be dragged down anymore than we already have been. I want to make things better.”

**Forgetfulshape** · #**2014** April 22nd, 2024, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by occultation

Unfortunately, it seemed that this apprentice couldn't be easily deterred from helping out. Fadingsun took a deep breath, debating whether he just should flat-out say no. On one paw, he really wanted some peace and quiet right now, but on the other, Stickpaw was very enthusiastic about helping him, and he'd hate to hurt her feelings...

Resigning himself to his apparent fate, he let out the breath he'd been holding. "Fine. You can help me decorate my den. And we don't have to add any skulls; I agree that it's in poor taste." As much as RiverClan needed a stricter and harsher leader, they didn't need another Dawnstar.

Rising to his paws, he beckoned Stickpaw to follow. "Come along, let's go out into the territory and see what we can find."

[ You can make your next post in the territory! ]

Well, at least it was a simple question. Asking to become an apprentice at ten moons wasn't a big deal, at least for him. The leader gave her a curt, but positive, nod. "That's not a problem with me. As long as you've met all of the requirements, you can become a warrior at ten moons. I appreciate your drive to become a warrior as soon as you can; RiverClan needs cats who are committed to doing the hard work."

Wrenpaw had a temper; that he remembered from the meeting where he'd been named deputy. But, if she focused and chose the right path, she could become a great warrior.

Fadingsun wasn't surprised to see Adderpaw show up in his den. Out of all of the cats in the Clan, she was one of the most active and involved. If she didn't show up in his den sooner rather than later, he'd be concerned.

She had a lot to cover, it seemed, and she wasted no time in covering it. He listened quietly as she went through her questions, his expression thoughtful. Adderpaw was more mature than many of her fellow 'paws, but was she really ready to become a warrior? She was only nine moons old; he wasn't sure when exactly she turned ten, but he had a feeling it wasn't as soon as she wanted to be a warrior.

"I think it's admirable that you're so passionate about being a warrior," he began, aiming to begin with the positive. "You've been a present and active member of this Clan, and when it's the right time, you'll be a fantastic warrior. That being said, I want to wait until you're ten moons to make you a warrior. For all that I'm sure you're hoping to accomplish as a full warrior of this Clan, a little extra life experience won't hurt you. That being said, if all of your requirements have been met, you can become a warrior as soon as you turn ten moons. Given how well you performed in the invasion, you may skip the battle portion of your assessment. I still want you to do the rest, however."

On the topic of having a bodyguard, Fadingsun smiled. "The gesture is appreciated, genuinely. I hope that we'll never have a rebellion here, but with the way some of our Clanmates are, it's hard to ever say for certain." Adderpaw might still be an apprentice, but he had no reason to believe she couldn't handle the truth. "I have my Lionhearts to protect me. Dusklion, Owltalon, and Seabreeze will all help watch my back, just as I watch theirs. If you ever hear of any traitorous talk, I want you to come to me immediately. Don't try to fix the problem yourself." Traitors could be desperate, and desperation bred viciousness.

The hurt and sorrow that flashed across his sister's face made his throat tighten. Stars, why did their relationship have to be so difficult? Why did it have to fall to such a low? He kept his face neutral, but inside another little chip broke off of his heart.

The grief clutching him was quickly replaced by a burning fury as he listened to the rest of Dusklion's report. Her voice began to grow quieter, drowned out by a sudden roar in his ears. Three RiverClan cats? In WindClan's camp? What the actual hell?

This was absolutely, unequivocally not what RiverClan needed right now. Why did his Clanmates have to be so reckless?

Fury lighting a fire in his step, he gave Dusklion a quick nod. "Thank you for coming to me with this. I'll handle it." With that, he streaked out of his den and up to the Floodstone.

Oh, great. Here was Redmire again, talking as if she had any degree of authority in this Clan. Fadingsun had to put in extra effort to avoid rolling his eyes as she burst in his den, claiming that she was doing him favors and that he ought to do himself one by listening to her.

He'd said cats could come to him with their concerns, so he was going to allow her to say hers. That being said, if she didn't watch herself, there'd be trouble. "Say what's on your mind. I'll make it clear right now, however, that I won't tolerate being insulted. So mind that while you propose whatever it is you want to talk about."

Fadingsun had quickly come to appreciate when cats came into his den with good things rather than complaints or issues he needed to address. Skyfall's words were met with a smile, which was unfortunately rare to see on the leader's face these days. "I appreciate that, thank you."

His eyes shifted to Appleberry as she enthusiastically requested an apprentice. RiverClan needed cats who actually cared about getting their 'paw's training done, so he saw no problem with it. "I'll keep you in mind for the next time I need a mentor. Thank you; I'm sure you'll do a great job."

Eyes flicking from one warrior to another, he asked, "Is there anything else I can do for you?"

Fadingsun was out of camp for a while after the meeting, spending time alone so that he could get as much of his anger out as he could. A lot of grass in a certain strip of territory had been completely uprooted over the past couple of hours.

Eventually, he made his way back to camp as the sun set behind the horizon. Padding into his den, he flopped down in his nest. A lot of his anger had subsided, and now that pesky worry was beginning to creep its way in.

Seabreeze's arrival interrupted the progression of that nasty emotion, however. Fadingsun sat straight up, masking his gratitude at the Lionheart's arrival. "Yes, of course. What's on your mind?"

Appleberry shook his head softly."thats all, Fadingsun." He gently smiled and dipped his head before walking away, then Skyfall quietly looked towards Fadingsun. "I did see some sort of small-ish black and white loner wandering around, I've escorted her out of the territory but she seems to get lost easily. However, she was extremely respectful when I told her not to return, even saying she appreciated being shown mercy. I reckon something is going on in the outskirts and she's both scared and probably looking for somewhere to hide from something." Skyfall stated, his expression slightly faltering. His tail swished gently as he quietly stood there, waiting for a response.

**Neptune.** · #**2015** April 22nd, 2024, 10:48 AM

Wrenpaw
~<>~
45/100
9 moons || she/her || RiverClan Apprentice || Silver Tongue
medium furred silver smoke she-cat; blue eyes

"Great, thank you," she answers with a nod, trying to stamp down the swelling of excitement in her core. She could be a warrior the minute she was ready! She'd have to train extra hard, get in loads more practice, tons of extra lessons, and an assessment by the end of next moon. But Wrenpaw was determined. She wouldn't sit around uselessly like most of the other apprentices would. She had plans to help her clan and those couldn't be done if she wasn't a warrior - apprentices are never listened to, they're never taken seriously, and she wanted to be taken seriously as soon as she could make others listen to her. Standing up, Wren begins to turn to leave and, as long as she was dismissed, she'd slip right back out of the den.

[ @occultation ]

**taillow** · #**2016** April 22nd, 2024, 10:09 PM

DUSKLION
she/her | riverclan's head lionheart | 27 moons | active purrks

She was hot on the kids tail as Wings sprinted back to camp. Dusklion's thoughts whirled with what could've happened. Rushwater was a formidable fighter and a fierce opponent - the fact that his chain was out there, along with what looked like blood, had the head Lionheart worried. What had broken that chain? Part of her wondered if he had lost it simply and was still out there and fine - but then why not come back to RiverClan? That part didn't make any sense.

She slipped into her brother's den right after the breathless 'paw, taking a moment to catch her own breath. "Out near Smallpines," Dusklion added with a glance towards Wings, "Eaglepaw found Rushwater's chain. There looked to be a struggle, 'n..." blood on the chain, but her eyes traveled to the chain still clamped in the apprentice's maw. It was clear the signs of blood on it, Fades could deduce that for himself. "I couldn't... recognize any other scents in the area."

[ Eaglepaw - @Mica ] [ Fadingsun - @occultation ]

**alec** · #**2017** April 25th, 2024, 05:54 AM

->> jayfrost <<-
[ he/him | rc warrior | 26moons | burn baby burn ]
a tall silver classic-tabby with well groomed short to medium length fur and icy blue eyes

jayfrost didnt feel particularly thrilled about having to speak to fadingsun about the same thing he had attempted to discuss with birdsnow approximately half a moon ago but it seemed like he couldnt get around it.
he shook out his coat, briefly regretting that he didnt take goldfish with him to speak to fadingsun, it wouldve probably looked better to have her around to confirm but he couldnt help it now.
from what he had heard fadingsun didnt seem very strict about cats entering his den but if the last meeting had shown him anything it was that he was far too tired to mess with him at this point. "fadingsun? can i speak to you?"

( @occultation )

***occultation*** · #**2018** April 25th, 2024, 07:30 PM

Fadingsun cast Seabreeze a warm glance at the presentation of the fish. He hadn't realized it until now, but he was quite hungry. Being as busy as he was lately meant that he often forgot to eat. "Thank you, Seabreeze. I appreciate it, genuinely." Bending down, he began to eat as Seabreeze talked.

It was a good idea. It would quell concerns about the new restrictions slowing down apprentice training. It was a lot for Seabreeze to handle on his own, however, even as one of the Clan's most dedicated warriors. "I definitely agree with that idea. However, it's a lot for you to take on yourself, especially considering your other duties. I want you to enlist Owltalon's help with this; the two of you can take turns taking small groups out to the border. If any other Lionhearts are named before the restrictions change, you can include them in this task, too. If anyone causes any problems on any of these outings, let me know immediately."

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Originally Posted by dino.

Redmire scowled at him. "As charming as ever. Don't flatter yourself, you're not worth that sort of time. It's about the whole kicking cats out of meetings thing to start with - and before you call me out on false pretenses, no, I'm not throwing a kit-fit because I was the first you booted. I want to talk about Birdsnow, too, but I'll save it for second."

She launched right into it. And it was long and wordy, but it was either he sit through what was essentially a miniature speech or she threw pointless profanities at him, and she was pretty sure she knew which he prefered.

“Throwing cats out of meetings and then banning them from the next one doesn’t help anyone. I’d get it if I interrupted a ceremony or cussed someone out or threatened to kill your face in front of the whole Clan, but that wasn’t what happened." If anything, she was the one who had been threatened by whoever that idiot was. She didn't care enough to remember their name for her list in the moment, she'd wrack her brains later. "If you shut cats down immediately all the time, they’re not going to want to speak out ever. And there goes passion and care and anything else you might be looking for, and then everybody’s just back to square one because no one’s going to want to put effort into a Clan that doesn’t hear them out. That's not what we need right now. You might not like me, but at least I care - that won't last long if no one feels comfortable openly voicing their opinions."

She rolled her shoulders, tasting her next words as they came to her.

“And banning cats from meetings is like asking for things to go wrong. What if something important goes out, an alliance or a murder or a major change, and the cats you banned from showing up aren’t there to hear, and they go and make a mess of things before someone else can tell them? Or there’s news of, like, a group of foxes in the area, they don’t know, and then they head out to that area and get themselves hurt and killed? It’s stupid and it’s setting us up for failure. If someone says something you don’t like and you kick them out for it every time, you’re not going to have cats to give news to. Same thing will happen if you make all your Lionhearts stay with the cats you throw out for the whole meeting. Owltalon missed everything else that was said, so she’s screwed if she can’t get the run-down from someone else later for whatever reason." Unlikely that a Lionheart would ever be left in the dark, but still a possibility. "It’s inefficient and it’ll slow us all down at the end of the day. I don't want us to be dragged down anymore than we already have been. I want to make things better.”

It didn't surprise Fadingsun that Redmire wanted to talk about getting thrown out of the meeting, or the whole situation with Birdsnow. The leader listened quietly and attentively. trying his best to keep any emotions he felt at bay. Redmire seemed to poke at the wrong spots with him, but he wanted to avoid being unnecessarily harsh. He'd told cats that he was open to hearing dissenting opinions in his den, and he wanted to stand by that.

"First and foremost, I've said that my decision on Birdsnow is final. Unless something has happened in the very small sliver of time between that meeting and now, my mind hasn't and won't change on this particular issue. I know you don't like that, but you're going to have to deal with it. I don't want to hear any arguments on that.

"You weren't kicked out of the meeting for expressing dissent, you were kicked out for insulting a Lionheart and being unnecessarily abrasive and aggressive. The cats in this Clan have run around without any order for too long; if we want to get back into a good place, that needs to change. You talk about wanting efficiency; well, if I have to pause a meeting to yell at someone for acting out or to stop an argument that's broken out because someone can't mind their manners, that's rather inefficient, isn't it? It wastes everyone's time.

"I appreciate your passion for this Clan, but you need to learn how to express it in a better way. I'm not going to tolerate cats acting as if they have the right to express themselves however they please without consequence. I'll admit that perhaps shutting down any and all discussion at meetings was too far. Going forward, if you - or anyone else - wants to voice a concern or a question during a meeting, it will be acknowledged and answered, but only if it's presented in a way that's calm, mature, and respectful. No yelling, no insulting, no 'you will do this, you will do that'. I will continue to kick cats out of meetings for that."

He curled his tail around his paws. "Regarding the concern about missing important information, it's fair. I'll instruct my Lionhearts that if they're tasked with escorting someone out of a meeting, they'll also need to check in with someone who was present for the whole meeting and inform the removed cat on what they missed. My Lionhearts are quick and efficient; there should be no reason for information to be going unknown because someone missed a meeting. If a cat is banned from a future meeting, they can approach a high rank or a Lionheart - or anyone else, for that matter - and ask about what transpired. Plenty of cats don't attend our meetings, yet manage to figure out how things are going just fine.

"If you truly want to make things better, Redmire, you're not going to do it by making an enemy out of the higher ranks. All that's going to do is cause this Clan unnecessary headaches. You have a great fire in you, and that's a good thing, but you need to learn how to tame it. Burn your enemies with it, not your own Clanmates."

A frown crossed Fadingsun's face as Skyfall reported encountering a loner. It wasn't uncommon these days, but it brought back memories of his attack. Thankfully, it didn't seem that this particular cat had posed a threat. Nonetheless, one could never be too sure with outsiders. Plus, if she was running from something, that something might find its way to RiverClan. "Thank you, Skyfall. I'll inform my Lionhearts to continue keeping an eye out for any disturbances."

( @Mica )

Fadingsun jumped up as Eaglepaw and Dusklion came into his den, with news that was both surprising and disturbing. Rushwater's chain had been found? Bloody, to boot. The warrior had gone missing almost as soon as he'd come back; given that it had been some time since then, the leader figured they wouldn't hear from him again.

A look of concentration furrowed his brow. "Hm. He must've been trying to return to RiverClan, and was attacked in the process. It wouldn't be unlike ThunderClan to attack a cat they presumed to be one of our own, but without concrete evidence I don't want to stir the Clan up. I'm assuming you checked the area for a blood trail or a body?" Stars, he hoped ThunderClan hadn't gone and kidnapped the guy.

Fadingsun was jolted awake at the sound of Jayfrost's voice at the entrance to his den. It took him a moment to get the grogginess out of his mind, but he sat up and nodded. "Yes, of course. What can I do for you?"

**Forgetfulshape** · #**2019** April 26th, 2024, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by occultation

Fadingsun cast Seabreeze a warm glance at the presentation of the fish. He hadn't realized it until now, but he was quite hungry. Being as busy as he was lately meant that he often forgot to eat. "Thank you, Seabreeze. I appreciate it, genuinely." Bending down, he began to eat as Seabreeze talked.

It was a good idea. It would quell concerns about the new restrictions slowing down apprentice training. It was a lot for Seabreeze to handle on his own, however, even as one of the Clan's most dedicated warriors. "I definitely agree with that idea. However, it's a lot for you to take on yourself, especially considering your other duties. I want you to enlist Owltalon's help with this; the two of you can take turns taking small groups out to the border. If any other Lionhearts are named before the restrictions change, you can include them in this task, too. If anyone causes any problems on any of these outings, let me know immediately."

It didn't surprise Fadingsun that Redmire wanted to talk about getting thrown out of the meeting, or the whole situation with Birdsnow. The leader listened quietly and attentively. trying his best to keep any emotions he felt at bay. Redmire seemed to poke at the wrong spots with him, but he wanted to avoid being unnecessarily harsh. He'd told cats that he was open to hearing dissenting opinions in his den, and he wanted to stand by that.

"First and foremost, I've said that my decision on Birdsnow is final. Unless something has happened in the very small sliver of time between that meeting and now, my mind hasn't and won't change on this particular issue. I know you don't like that, but you're going to have to deal with it. I don't want to hear any arguments on that.

"You weren't kicked out of the meeting for expressing dissent, you were kicked out for insulting a Lionheart and being unnecessarily abrasive and aggressive. The cats in this Clan have run around without any order for too long; if we want to get back into a good place, that needs to change. You talk about wanting efficiency; well, if I have to pause a meeting to yell at someone for acting out or to stop an argument that's broken out because someone can't mind their manners, that's rather inefficient, isn't it? It wastes everyone's time.

"I appreciate your passion for this Clan, but you need to learn how to express it in a better way. I'm not going to tolerate cats acting as if they have the right to express themselves however they please without consequence. I'll admit that perhaps shutting down any and all discussion at meetings was too far. Going forward, if you - or anyone else - wants to voice a concern or a question during a meeting, it will be acknowledged and answered, but only if it's presented in a way that's calm, mature, and respectful. No yelling, no insulting, no 'you will do this, you will do that'. I will continue to kick cats out of meetings for that."

He curled his tail around his paws. "Regarding the concern about missing important information, it's fair. I'll instruct my Lionhearts that if they're tasked with escorting someone out of a meeting, they'll also need to check in with someone who was present for the whole meeting and inform the removed cat on what they missed. My Lionhearts are quick and efficient; there should be no reason for information to be going unknown because someone missed a meeting. If a cat is banned from a future meeting, they can approach a high rank or a Lionheart - or anyone else, for that matter - and ask about what transpired. Plenty of cats don't attend our meetings, yet manage to figure out how things are going just fine.

"If you truly want to make things better, Redmire, you're not going to do it by making an enemy out of the higher ranks. All that's going to do is cause this Clan unnecessary headaches. You have a great fire in you, and that's a good thing, but you need to learn how to tame it. Burn your enemies with it, not your own Clanmates."

A frown crossed Fadingsun's face as Skyfall reported encountering a loner. It wasn't uncommon these days, but it brought back memories of his attack. Thankfully, it didn't seem that this particular cat had posed a threat. Nonetheless, one could never be too sure with outsiders. Plus, if she was running from something, that something might find its way to RiverClan. "Thank you, Skyfall. I'll inform my Lionhearts to continue keeping an eye out for any disturbances."

( @Mica )

Fadingsun jumped up as Eaglepaw and Dusklion came into his den, with news that was both surprising and disturbing. Rushwater's chain had been found? Bloody, to boot. The warrior had gone missing almost as soon as he'd come back; given that it had been some time since then, the leader figured they wouldn't hear from him again.

A look of concentration furrowed his brow. "Hm. He must've been trying to return to RiverClan, and was attacked in the process. It wouldn't be unlike ThunderClan to attack a cat they presumed to be one of our own, but without concrete evidence I don't want to stir the Clan up. I'm assuming you checked the area for a blood trail or a body?" Stars, he hoped ThunderClan hadn't gone and kidnapped the guy.

Fadingsun was jolted awake at the sound of Jayfrost's voice at the entrance to his den. It took him a moment to get the grogginess out of his mind, but he sat up and nodded. "Yes, of course. What can I do for you?"

"Alright. You have a good day, now." Skyfall meowed softly, dipping his head in respect again and padding off.

**alec** · #**2020** April 26th, 2024, 02:45 PM

( @occultation )
jayfrost cleared his throat, stepping into fadingsuns den after the invitation.
"im here to discuss a arrangement and give you an offer." he opened and briefly wished he had practiced this speech instead of going in blank.
"goldfish is going to have her kits soon and we talked about her n peppers discomfort with stayin in the nursery for a long time so i offered to look after the kits as soon as possible. i tried to talk to birdsnow about it but we never really got to a conclusion so i wanted to see if that arrangement would be alright." was the explaination confusing? yes probably. did he know how to word it better? definitely not. hopefully fadingsun wouldnt insist of speaking to goldfish before giving him the "yes" because jayfrost had no idea where she had run off to again. he sighed internally, she probably shouldnt be out and about at all, rest and prepare for the kits but if he knew anything it was that goldfish wouldnt let anyones recommendations or good will stop her.
"n my offer is to generally keep an eye on the kits, maybe we could restart the whole kit lessons thing so i can do something with my time n just help around camp until i can return to my duties as a warrior"