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Lightningpaw chewed on her claws nervously as she listened to this. She wasn't sure if she could help drive out the clan or if that would be a good idea at all. What if starclan got upset that there wasn't four clans? What if nothing changed? What if... Oh she was just nervous in general. Lightningpaw could be prickly but she had a hard time finding enough hate to kill another cat, or drive one out of their home. Might as well be killing some of them by doing that.

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Of course it was inevitable that Bumblestar would talk about this, war with RiverClan was coming soon, a three-clan attack on them to drive them out of their territory temporarily. Snakefang hoped that RiverClan wouldn’t try to fight, because she knew that when the day came, if she’d have to fight her own brother, she wouldn’t be able to do it. Sure, Duskleaf might’ve been a little angry with her at the last gathering, but Snakefang knew she wouldn’t be able to bring herself to harm him, or her father for that matter, if Reedclaw was still alive that was…

"Haha yeah! Let’s teach those fish a lesson!" Snakefang knew she couldn’t show how she really felt about it, and felt almost guilty saying this, but it was more important to her that her secret wasn’t found out, because if the rest of ThunderClan found out that she was actually half RiverClan and had been hiding it, that might make them question her loyalty, so she pretended to be enthusiastic about this attack, even though in reality she was dreading it. "They've got away with literal murder! Bunch o' rogues if you ask me, unworthy to be called a clan." Lying through her teeth like this was not a nice feeling, it was wrong, but she felt it was necessary to keep her secret.

(Open for anyone who wants to interact with her, also first time getting to explore her dishonesty!)

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So, everything had finally boiled over, then. Riverclan was going into all-out war. Blazepaw was rather impressed that somehow, Riverclan pissed off every single clan enough that they'd join forces to drive them out. Fadingsun must be losing it.

Randomly killing a deputy? Torturing apprentices? Not to mention the kidnapping, poisioning, etcetera. Really, with the way Bumblestar was talking, they sounded almost comically evil. Surely it must be chaos over there, either that or even all the cats who inevitably whined about violence were brainwashed, thrown out or killed. The clans always made the others sound bad, sure, but usually not to this extent. Seemed like everyone was dead serious.

Bumblestar claimed the exile was temporary, but Blazepaw was a little skeptical. Depending on how forcefully Riverclan was... escorted out, there might not even be a clan left to return. And if their territory was "up for grabs," what if all of it was taken? Blazepaw was already picking about flaws in the logic here, but Bumblestar didn't seem open to criticsm on the exile part. He wasn't going to waste his breath.

Well, in an attempt to make this announcement seem at least slightly more open, Bumblestar was asking for the clan's opinion on letting Riverclan cats join. Mudhound, Wolfhive, and Ripplepaw had a point, or at least half of one... though he felt like the fact not all of Riverclan was terrible should be obvious. Maybe a little terrible, depending on how much you liked to generalize, but the kits and young apprentices weren't the ones doing the torturing. Not like most of his clanmates realized, or cared.

"While the idea of letting young cats in might sound nice, or every cat who wants to 'redeem themselves,'" Blazepaw started with a dull sigh, "they are abandoning their clan. Their clan that everyone hates, sure, but do we really want our new clanmates to be the type that won't even try putting up a fight? If anything, I respect the cats more who won't turn tail the second things get hard. Loyalty isn't everything, especially not if it makes you blind, but really. A little backbone wouldn't hurt." Blazepaw flippantly waved his paw, thinking on how to continue with his thoughts. "And in the long run, letting in this wave of Riverclan cats might cause trouble. What if they want to go back, if Riverclan ever pulls their act together? Will they really be able to fight their old clanmates, be useful in a war where they're ashamed to show their faces to the cats they betrayed? Kits might be less of a problem, but even then, they may start flaking off to 'reconnect with their Riverclan past.'"

"Plus, letting in some stray kits shouldn't make anyone feel any better about themselves. If we're driving them out, everyone helping should realize that kits are likely going to die from this. It'll be hard for Riverclan during the exile, that's the point. If we're trying to punish Riverclan, you might as well be commited."

Honestly, Blazepaw didn't care if some of their clanmates were disloyal cowards. But did Bumblestar really want that? He was trying to think for the sake of his clan here, even if they ended up not listening and regretted it later. He was almost proud of himself, for managing to ignore the thoughts of his... personal biases against Riverclan for his whole little speech. Feeling too vengeful would just be distracting.

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When Bumblestar called a meeting, Mallowpaw padded hesitantly out of the apprentice den. The events of the last meeting were still on her mind; Crowpaw, a traitor. The rage darkening Bumblestar's face as she demoted, renamed and exiled him. The anger from her clanmates, from some she'd never seen angry. Springlight, one of the nicest high ranks, snarling in Crowpaw- Thrushkit's face.

None of the meetings she had attended so far had been peaceful, but Mallowpaw still clung onto that hope as she sat down and Bumblestar started speaking.

There were no pleasantries, no kits becoming apprentices. Bumblestar cut straight to the chase, listing RiverClan's crimes. Mallowpaw had heard about the RiverClan warriors in WindClan's camp and Fallownose's death, but she hadn't heard some of the other news, like how he was killed by RiverClan's new deputy.

Then she told them- Twilightstar had proposed for them to drive RiverClan out of their territory. Bumblestar had agreed.

The leader started listing all of RiverClan's crimes, many she'd never heard of. Bumblestar had been leader her whole life; she hadn't been alive when RiverClan had committed these acts, when ThunderClan's leadership was as unstable as the clan Bumblestar so hated. But Mallowpaw could only remember the time when ThunderClan raided RiverClan.

Then Bumblestar started explaining the details of the battle. RiverClan was to be driven out, their camp raided, their territory claimed. She sighed a breath of relief when Bumblestar said that it wasn't mandatory to fight. She just had to make herself useful while the rest of the clan was gone. Mallowpaw could do that; she couldn't leave camp without a warrior accompanying her, but she could help set up nests in the medicine cat den, if the medicine cats allowed it.

But then her gaze drifted to Wolfhive. Would he want her to fight? He wouldn't force her, she knew that, but she didn't want to disappoint him. She had battle training, if only a little, and Wolfhive would most likely teach her more. Battle was his speciality, after all. Mallowpaw swallowed, bringing her gaze back to Bumblestar. She would fight if necessary, even if she didn't want to. A warrior fought as well as hunted.

Now Bumblestar wanted to hear the clan's opinions on whether she should let RiverClan cats in. The majority of cats that voiced their opinions wanted to let cats in, or at least kits and apprentices. Wolfhive was one of them. A few were vehemently against it; the anger in their voices reminding her of how they reacted to Thrushkit's treason. Mallowpaw chose to remain silent; she didn't have a strong viewpoint on the matter.

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Clearly Bumblestar needed to learn to stop expecting much from her Clan. A few cats had something actually decent to say, and worthwhile listening to, but the rest made her fight the urge to roll her eyes. In any case, it seemed that while several were of the opinion the fish should get out and stay out, it was still a close count to the ones who wanted to give them a chance.

She thanked herself silently for coming up with the idea of talking to her Hornets the night before. Next time something like this happened, she'd take their advice and just stick with it so she wouldn't have to go through some sort of messy discussion.

"Alright. We'll be letting the kits 'n apprentices in; queens, too, if they've got a young family they want to be spared from the exile so long as they haven't been involved. Wolfhive, if you 'n the Hornets happen to run into any younger warriors, feel free to check 'em out and see if they'll be a good fit. The others can take the exile in the Outskirts with the rest of their Clan."

"What we won't be doing is building a whole other den for the queens 'n kits." Bumblestar tossed Lioncrest a look. "If we let 'em in, for as much as I don't trust 'em, the last thing I wanna do is ostracize 'em. We need to be better than RiverClan, not worse. It'll be easier to keep an eye on 'em if they're in the same den, anyway."

Just like the exile being temporary, this would be a mercy, and it would be Bumblestar's last.

"As far as the fight goes, I'll be rounding up just some of us to head out once the time comes. Apprentices younger than six moons or without battle training'll be staying home. Those of you who come: kits, queens, and elders aren't to be touched during the fight. I'd say the same of their medicine cats, but seeing as how they attacked ours last time with no consideration, I don't give a damn if you target the herb stores. But it's your pelt at risk if you go after the medicine cats themselves.

"As for our own healers, I want guards on 'em at all times. Nightgaze 'n Snakepelt, you're to stick with Drizzlecloud. Sproutfleck, Orangeblossom, I want you two with Springlight. Do not let me catch you leaving their sides unless absolutely necessary. I won't have 'em targeted again. If they get hurt due to your negligence, if I see you leave your station for even a second, you can join RiverClan in exile." She wouldn't allow the fish to get their claws into her healers again, not after the damage they already did.

"After we've come back 'n resettled, I'll be taking a group out to scour the entirety of RiverClan's territory. I want to learn all the ins and outs of their land before they come back, in case we need to use it to our advantage at some point. If we find stragglers there, we'll be takin' 'em back with us. If Cattail Pond's been cleared from the badger, I want that back, too."

With a sweep of her tail, Bumblestar descended the Stormcrest to stand near the base. "Meeting's over. If you have questions, I'm here to answer."

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Fallingpaw nodded his head at the leaders words then left

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