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♡ Medical advice | Cat health & illnesses
I've got this idea when a user asked for a plot if greencough could be gotten during new-leaf.
Do you need a plot and you need to make an illness work? Are you unsure about some specific cat health related problems? (NOT about herbs!) I'm offering free advice to make it clear! I'm a vet student, so I know a few things that could help you. :happycat: Note: I can make specific suggestions for health problems, but the cat won't likely know too much about it. Remember that only medicine cats have a basic knowledge of wounds! For example: I need a cat that gets an unknown illness and eventually dies, with the symptoms x,y,z. I will give you a suggestion, or you can give me one and I'll help you build the illness evolution needed for the plot. I must specify that I haven't studied many specific pathologies yet, so I'll probably have to do some research first! I'm now finishing my 4rd year now ♥︎ You can use this form: • Which symptoms should your cat have? • Do you want a genetic or acquired illness/condition? • How many moons is this cat? Is it a certain breed? • What's the cat past? How/where does it live now? • Has it already some condition/other problems? • What should the outcome of the illness/condition be? • Is there a bigger plot around the illness/condition? • Mention: @Wingnettle Note: it is advisable that you do not choose any illness with a contagious infective origine, otherwise the cats that interact with the sick will likely get infected too! Also. Little kk tips appreciated! :heartbounce: |
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you have any info of FCDR? mostly how it presents, how far it progresses, etc. I’ve been considering making a character who would have a taurine deficiency
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What's FCDR? I can tell you straightforward that a wild cat can't have this deficiency since taurine is an amino acid vastly found in prey (raw meat). I don't think either that there could be genetic/ereditary causes so I suggest that you look for another illness. @Naiad
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If we are talking about domestic cats who are fed a commercial vegan diet, that is a little different (and not always working), but wild cats? They wouldn't be able to eat any plant from the wild, since they are 1. Inadequate for consumption, 2. Not processed and 3. Honestly disgusting |
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It's called PRA: progressive retinal atrophy There's not much to say, except that at a certain age the cat starts to show vision loss until blindness. |
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This is not something that would ever take place in roleplay, but is part of a backstory;
Would it be realistic for a three month old kitten to suddenly die from HCM/Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy? I wasn't sure what could have caused her death as it was meant to be something sudden with little to no prior symptoms that weren't at all alarming and/or easy to hide. From what I found, HCM fit the bill - the only thing that bothered me is that it mentioned to be genetic in a lot of cases, but not all of them. Since I wouldn't want to dictate a genetic disease on a character that is not mine (the mother/father), I figured she could be one of the non genetic cases. But I would still really like to know if you think that works? Sure I've looked into it on several occasions, but I would still really appreciate to know what you think, and maybe know what you think could've happened if HCM doesn't work/isn't realistic :0 Additionally, it is possible for a kitten to be born blind, is it not? And if indeed so, would there be any specific causes behind it? @Wingnettle sorry for the bit of a paragraph pfpf, but thank you in advance! It's really nice of you, and I've been wondering these things for a while :heartbounce: |
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Hm. Well, I have my WindClan warrior, Lotuswhisper, who is set to run away with his forbidden RiverClan lover in the future. The original plan was that he was supposed to die from greencough or something along those lines since there was an illness running rampant through WindClan, but the plot is taking a bit longer than planned, so I might need more options on what illness he could contract that could kill him. He tends to overwork himself and not take care of himself, hardly eating and getting barely any sleep, etc. He’s been sick off and on for awhile now without really putting a name to it. He’s a maine coon if that matters at all, but yeah, any suggestions to possible illnesses? And the symptoms that can come with it? It will have to be fatal, but that shouldn't be too hard since he will be without any means of medicine soon and his lover has no knowledge of herbs whatsoever. @Wingnettle
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The causes of this illness haven't been clearly identified yet, but you could still make it possible to have it as an hereditary problem since not every cat with a mutation in their genes shows the illness. The parents could have a genetic predisposition without showing it, but no cat would know it. In the end, the cause remains unknown to the cats. In your case, the kitten might start developing HCM after they're born and maybe die suddendly because of a blood clot that causes a heart attack. More commonly these blood clots will stop the blood from flowing to the hind legs, causing acute pain and hind legs paralysis in extreme cases. I think that the kit might die from HCM, but they would probably have a few symptoms just before that moment; as I said, the signs that they are having a heart attack if you want them to die. https://www.vet.cornell.edu/departme...cardiomyopathy Yes, rarely a cat can be born blind but I don't have a detailed list of causes. What can I think of is: the cat has some genes mutations that made their eyes develop differently, or they had an infection in the uterus because the mother contracted an infection capable of reaching the kit. However I can't tell you if such bacteria, virus and so on exist. |
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How many moons is this cat? Did they get sick during the travel or before? Can you tell me something more about this journey? |
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If you choose to get greencough, remember that this illness is very contagious so the cat's mate would probably get it as well. |
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Apologies for the late response to this, but yes, I'd be down for another illness. Anything that you would recommend. |
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-Diabete: the cat shows increased thirst, appetite and urination, although they suffer a persistent and progressive weight loss. -Cancer: this can appear everywhere in the body and can be visible or not, depending on his position. A cancer can be benign or malignant; the first one may not make the cat show symptoms, whereas the second one often ends with the death of the animal and its development is way quicker. -Hyperthyroidism: increased appetite, thirst, heart rate, restlessness and poor grooming habits, but still weight loss. Some cats show loss of appetite and are lethargic. Usually seen in more aged cats (after 10 years) These illnesses have a progressive course, so the symptoms will be worsening over time. (Except for a benign cancer, where the outcome is based on its position in the body) |
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Does that also mean any siblings of the kit could have a genetic predisposition for it as well, without necessarily developing HCM? Thank you so much for the information, and the link! It's very helpful! |
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I think I'll be going with Diabetes! After doing some poking around of my own, that would be the best one for him, thank you! :heartbounce: |
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Hey! I was wondering what a twisted, slightly shorter leg could be caused by, and if a cat with that condition would be more likely to have kits with a disability of some kind. @Wingnettle
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There may be different causes for a twisted leg. For example, the cat may be born with a deformity due to genetic causes or because the fetus doesn't have enough space in the uterus to grow (the legs can't stretch and the bones/articulations weld badly). Otherwise they may acquire a twisted leg after an accident, for example a car accident or a terrible fall that end in an injury which doesn't heal correctly. Remember Cinderpelt? She got hit by a car and her leg never regained her previous shape. And Briarlight? She fell of that tree and her leg also remained twisted. Can a cat like that have kits? I'm not sure. I haven't studied how childbirth works physically, but I think that if the damage concerns legs only, then there's nothing to worry about. The real problem would be if the cat also has something wrong with their pelvis, since the kits have to pass trough that. However, a twisted leg is a matter of tendons, articulations and bones. Birth works trough the musculature, so if the pelvis doesn't have any deformity all should be ok. I hope this'll be good enough! I tried with my limited 2-years knowledge:) |
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Hello, me again. Sorry if this is a bit silly, but if a cat were to have an allergic reaction to salmon, would the symptoms go away by itself at some point? Would the cat be able to survive if, say, their throat and/or tongue swelled up if the swelling remained to a minimum or is that just certain death without the required treatment?
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This is a useful resource -> https://wagwalking.com/cat/condition/salmon-allergy The symptoms may be mild or severe; if extreme, the cat develops an anaphylactic reaction and the throat/tongue swelling might cause suffocation and death in little time. Otherwise the symptoms will just go away on their own and the cat will just have to avoid that food for good. |
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im thinking of giving my main oc a disability, don't know what disability to give her tho. @Wingnettle
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id like her to get the disability through a non combat related accident. I'd like her to have to train hard to cope with having the disability. @Wingnettle
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i want her to remain the potential to be a good warrior, shes in Thunderclan. @Wingnettle
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-She goes hunting in Snakerocks and gets attacked by an adder. Maybe she loses sight from one eye? -She climbs an old tree until some bark/some branch breaks and she falls. She might get an injury to a leg/paw, which then heals but leaves that body part crooked. -Maybe she meets some young and stupid twolegs who use firecrackers and she loses hearing from an ear? -This might be too complicated: if she falls / has a car accident, she might get neurological damage but that could impact many many things. For example, she might lose the use of both legs |
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ty! i think i might go with loss of sight in one eye @Wingnettle
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So... there is one gene that is associated both with white coat and deafness, and that's a dominant one. You don't necessarily need to choose a Maine Coon among the parents if you want to raide the chances, as only white maine coons are at risk and so are many other breeds. This deafness can be unilateral or bilateral, meaning it can even impact one ear only. It's a congenital disease, so the hearing organs don't develop but rather degenerate during the first months of life - meaning the cat hasn't probably ever heard anything in their life. That gene is also associated with blue eyes, so a cat with two blue eyes is more likely to have a congenital deafness but that doesn't mean thar other eyes' color can't coexist with it. Since the effect of genes that are inherited is summed, the descendants of two white cats with blue eyes - deafs or not - are at higher risk of being deaf since birth. Second thing: this looks more complicated but since characters can speak, I guess it can work somehow. However keep in mind that the mother should have had the opportunity to learn enough on her own and pass on to Asterdance the more she can. You should take your time to develop this storyline enough, and it should be fine! Also, you want not to exaggerate in this lip reading as if the cat has secret powers and can read anything. You should keep realistic and limit this ability to a few relevantl works, such as "prey", "hunting", "patrols"... you know, the basic indications that a warrior needs to communicate. For less important stuff such as grooming, playing, saying hi.. use your body language. Your ears, paws, tails, mouth, back... your clanmates will have the time to learn your way or communication. If you want to take the "acquired deafness" path, here's what you need to know: it may be caused by infections, trauma, toxins or degenerations of the ear. It can result also from inflammation, damage of the small bones within the ears or loss of nerve cells (causes by trauma, infections, loud noises, tumors, drugs toxic to the ear and other diseases that affect the myelin of neurons). So no, congenital deafness doesn't regard the damage of neuronal cells in the ear as you first said. That type of deafness is due to a degeneration of the whole system (the cochlea and the organ of Corti). Can the noises of a car accident cause complete deafness in a kit? I don't think so, but it may surely cause some problems if the car is VERY noisy (deafness is improbable with noises under 70 decibel, and cars are usually below that range. To give you an idea, fireworks would be 140 decibels for example). With a car accident it would be more likely to get deafness from a trauma, maybe to the small bones of the ear (even just one). Hope I was useful :heartbounce: Main sources: https://www.msdvetmanual.com/cat-own...afness-in-cats https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cong...afness_in_cats https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/noi...d-hearing-loss |
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i have a kit character in ShadowClan (Sagekit) who is about to become an apprentice, and i was wondering if theres any genetic diseases in domestic shorthairs or ragdolls that would cause complete blindness suddenly? i was hoping for him to become an apprentice then his vision going away not long after
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